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Retzius
Starting Member
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 21:16:52
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Hello,
Anyone have a SSD on thier P7010? I know they are faster, cooler, and better but they are expensive. Anyone who personally has one installed notice a difference in heat and speed care to comment?
Any idea where I can find the cheapest? Who has done it and which model # do I look for. I search on this forum but only found tmt's post. I know saw some other post but I cant find it anymore. Thanks.
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tmt
Advanced Member
2760 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 22:16:46
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Retrofitting an SSD to the older P7K's is basically the same as the post of mine you found, but it's easier because the older models have a PATA 2.5" drive. This means a lot more room to work, in general. You could take the 1.8" ZIF approach like I did in my P7230, but you'd need a different adapter, from the 44-pin mini-IDE to the ZIF. Those are readily available.
Or, I believe MTron makes several SSD 2.5" IDE drives that will literally plug right in, the MSD-PATA1025/3025/7025. Good luck in your hunt.
Don't expect miracles for short money though. Read up first.
Tom. |
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Retzius
Starting Member
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 22:36:03
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Thanks Tom,
I know I saw someone else post an SSD drive on thier P7010 but I cant find it anymore. Maybe I saw it in another forum. Hey tom are you from San Diego? I'm in Escondido, CA. Thought I saw that somewhere. Anyhow, thanks for the info.
One more question Tom, did you notice a difference in the temp/fan of your notebook? Did it run cooler with the new SSD. Thanks. |
Edited by - Retzius on 02/05/2009 00:42:50 |
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Retzius
Starting Member
USA
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tmt
Advanced Member
2760 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 07:06:22
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The two adapters are functionally the same, but I'd recommend the first one as it is simpler and thinner. I did not notice any significant change in temperature of my notebook, mine had a 1.8" drive to begin with. I'm not from San Diego.
Tom. |
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Retzius
Starting Member
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 19:17:05
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I has hoping for cooler running temps. Oh well, I guess you cant have it all. |
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Retzius
Starting Member
USA
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tmt
Advanced Member
2760 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2009 : 22:56:21
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I doubt that your P7010 has room for any of that stuff. Going from IDE to SATA isn't going to perform well, but even then, the 1.8" drives use a "micro SATA" connector so you'd need two adapters. I really recommend a regular 2.5" IDE, or a 1.8" ZIF IDE with a single 44->ZIF adapter.
Tom. |
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Retzius
Starting Member
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2009 : 00:34:05
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Yeah, I know, I thought performance might suffer from the adapters too. I just hate being stuck with 32GB and knowing my luck, a larger capacity SSD will be released as soon as buy the 1.8" 32 GB SSD. Oh, decisions! Thanks Tom. |
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tmt
Advanced Member
2760 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2009 : 11:24:31
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The IDE-IDE adapters won't affect performance at all, they are simply pin converters.
Tom. |
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Retzius
Starting Member
USA
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Retzius
Starting Member
USA
26 Posts |
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Retzius
Starting Member
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 02/18/2009 : 15:34:35
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I got it to work!
I ordered a different adapter because the one I had previously ordered still hasnt arrived. It was too agonizing to wait. I'll just hold onto the other one when I change the HD drive on my g/f's computer to SSD. |
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tmt
Advanced Member
2760 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2009 : 00:19:40
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The Toshiba-type is the thinner one and it's the type all drives use. There are some connectors where the Toshiba thickness is a little tight, but as you found, they all work. Glad you got it working!
Tom. |
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Retzius
Starting Member
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2009 : 00:50:17
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I got benchmarks, check it out! Looks like I am getting faster writing speeds than what I've seen!
Mtron 32GB MSD-PATA3018 on P7010D
Here is a second take!
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Edited by - Retzius on 02/19/2009 01:31:55 |
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CLLO
New Member
USA
73 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2009 : 22:24:51
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Thanks for sharing the info.
Not bad - this is around what I have with my desktop (1.5tb Barracuda) on a Promise add-on SATA card.
My P7010's Scorpio 250gb pull in only around 53-54mb/sec on the high end.
Along with the zero-seek-time and the zero-latency-time, this ssd should be out performing the 1.5tb Barracuda. Too bad the $$$ per gb is so much more than the regular HDD.
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Retzius
Starting Member
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2009 : 01:55:18
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I was hoping for more cooler temps with the ssd but I really havent noticed a change. However, pdf's, photoshop, and word documents open up real fast now. |
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CLLO
New Member
USA
73 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2009 : 19:47:36
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Raw numbers aside...
How is the responsiveness. Boot time? Speed in starting say MS word or other popular apps? |
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Retzius
Starting Member
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2009 : 01:18:30
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Boot time I think is around the same or slightly slower than my 7K rpm 64gb Hitachi hard drive. Its weird because when fujitsu appears it loads fast then I get this long black screen pause before I see the windows screen. Once in windows, it will load up much faster than my previous HD. I will post some videos so you can see soon.
Speed in loading MS word and other apps is blazing fast. Opening photoshop and using it is also faster. I think photoshop opens up in about 4 sec or less. I can be working in photoshop and run other applications with no problems. Before when I would open PDF files I could feel the lag, now they load up in less than a sec, (huge difference). I also bought another 1gb stick from memoryten as memorysuppliers memory sticks did not work for me. There is a definite improvement in performance I only wish SSD drives would drop in price and have more space like 128 GB instead of 32 gb.
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jafar
New Member
USA
68 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2009 : 17:53:42
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Wow, your write speeds are more than double of what I'm getting. I get the feeling there's a bug in the ICH6-M Chipset with SSD's. You're running an ICH4-M Chipset. I tried to disable my SATA Controller through the bios to see if it would make a difference and it didn't. I wonder why mine is writing at a much slower pace.
You should also run a couple of Crystal Disk Marks to see what random read and write performance looks like. |
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CLLO
New Member
USA
73 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2009 : 19:59:32
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".128g...ssd...drop in price..."
Transcend has a 64g (slower M series) now goes for just $170'ish. The read/write is 75/45 (mb/s). I have not seen anyone carrying their faster S series in PATA. (85/75 mb/s).
I love higher speed, but size is also addictive. I can't see dropping from my 250gb to 64...
I think that long blank screen is while the system is doing something network related. I have seen the blank screen delay cutting much shorter when my WiFi is switched off during boot.
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Retzius
Starting Member
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2009 : 00:37:47
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quote: Originally posted by jafar
Wow, your write speeds are more than double of what I'm getting. I get the feeling there's a bug in the ICH6-M Chipset with SSD's. You're running an ICH4-M Chipset. I tried to disable my SATA Controller through the bios to see if it would make a difference and it didn't. I wonder why mine is writing at a much slower pace.
You should also run a couple of Crystal Disk Marks to see what random read and write performance looks like.
I am not familiar with crystal disk marks but will investigate it. Any help is appreciated.
CLLO,
The limited space does suck. I had to back up a lot of my data to an external HD. I am sure in a few years larger capacity SSD drives will be available. |
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woodz93
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 03/16/2009 : 13:11:38
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quote: Originally posted by Retzius
quote: Originally posted by jafar
Wow, your write speeds are more than double of what I'm getting. I get the feeling there's a bug in the ICH6-M Chipset with SSD's. You're running an ICH4-M Chipset. I tried to disable my SATA Controller through the bios to see if it would make a difference and it didn't. I wonder why mine is writing at a much slower pace.
You should also run a couple of Crystal Disk Marks to see what random read and write performance looks like.
I am not familiar with crystal disk marks but will investigate it. Any help is appreciated.
CLLO,
The limited space does suck. I had to back up a lot of my data to an external HD. I am sure in a few years larger capacity SSD drives will be available.
I started the thread on SSD in a P5020. Memoright claims their SSD's are immune to that ICHx 80mb bottleneck that is apparent looking at the benchmark image.
I am totally loving the SSD in my P5020 - it's the MTron Pro 7000. Initially i did go with the Mobi 3000 and the ZIF to PATA converter - but that gave me a boot hang of about 5 seconds. |
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